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hey rayz
try this

1. screenshot the puzzle
2. close apps
3. solve the puzzle somewhere else
4. resume the puzzle
5. fill in the answer as fast as you can

you can easily solve the extreme puzzle around 1:00
and much faster for easy puzzle since it has less box to fill

just beat my own record today (again lol)

my new record for extreme puzzle is

2:33

and again with NO helper (disable all help), validate, auto-fills, flag conflicting value, flag incorrect value, cheating, guessing, pausing etc

next goal is hitting 2:20

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I only play the extreme category. My best time is 3:39 (in extreme). No cheats or tactics that i can describe. I'm just good with numbers like this. I have never gone near 10 minutes. By memory, my worst time was about 7 minutes. I also didn't know there were any cheats for this game.

Just beat my score. Now my extreme is 2:34. Finally made the top 100

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I was in the top 50 5 times in one day last week. Today I was in there 3 times. The top 50 page is broken, you can't appear more than twice it seems. It just erases old scores. I guess that prevents cheaters from putting their name all over the page.

In any case, I just got my fastest of 1:45 in extreme. I have a new technique which allows me to get below 3 minutes quite often. Note that shoving 10 seconds off of 5 minutes is a lot easier than shaving 10 seconds off of 2 minutes.

To get these super times, you have to be able to do a number of things:

use both thumbs to enter numbers. use a small-screen device, not a tablet. You can't reach around those things. You'll learn finger agility with practice. You'll need a lot of practice.
make only fast decisions, if not fast, move on to the next number
start with the easy ones (the ones where there's already a lot of numbers)
pencil in your head to find impossibilities. This requires a lot of practice. It starts by knowing how Sudoku works.
fill in the ones you can find quickly in pen mode, then switch to pencil mode
hidden pairs take a lot of time to find. If you see them, use them immediately and remember them so as not to pencil in anything else. If you have to search for hidden pairs, you'll likely not make the top 100 already.
A MAJOR help is this: If you have penciled everything in, then when you find a digit, you should always evaluate only the digits that were penciled into that cell. Check the grid to see if any of those have changed possibilities (last one left, or it's a row/col in cell blocking the others in that row/col). Those are the only digits that changed state when you put the number in the cell. Often you find one or more of those digits can now be filled in. Simply add the numbers penciled into the new cell to your set of digits to check.
practice
practice
practice

If your best time is 5 minutes you're mediocre at best. Some people treat this game as a sport and they practice until they drop and they take pride in their achievements. I myself play because I'm addicted

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All my top 10 are under 2:34 now and all in the last 5 days.

I wanted to say that cheating at these speeds must be very hard indeed. I stare intently at the screen as I do these speed solves. Having to look away to see what the answers are and them back, focusing each time on the other board must just be really hard. I can't imagine making good time using that technique. Even an easy would probably take over a minute to fill out, looking back and forth, finding your bearings with each switch.

Having made the 1:45 honestly, and knowing thousands of players play at the same time, I find it quite plausible that people get sub-1-minute times. But I can't imagine that this is possible by cheating, unless some software fills it out for you.

I want to finish by saying that I sometimes can't find a solution to a puzzle even after 20 minutes. I usually find I missed something, so it wasn't the puzzle being hard after all. Sometimes I can't find the answer at all and use a hint. "At all" can mean after 7 minutes or so for me before I give up. Going for times below 3 minutes makes a 7 minute game feel like a waste of time. It's not like you win anything at that point.

I've also played games for 25 minutes and then found the solution. But that's a forever and I had better be watching TV while I do that or it's just too tedious. It requires a lot of concentration and extended periods of searching with no payoff is hard.

easy 00:43

medium 1:20

hard 2:13

extreme 3:29

my average is 5 mins to 10 mins

Been playing for 4 mounth on this Phone. Easy: 0.54 medium: 1:15, hard: 1:52, extreme: 2:29. I have uploaded the list but i cant find it? (I have not cheated) I havet Just been playing every Day.

I only play extreme; love the challenge. My best time is 3:49.

Best extreme time is 4:50... but I usually play when I'm eating my lunch, with my left hand.

Cheers!

~knoregs

6:50

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I'm running in the 5's pretty consistently with all help turned off. A few low 4's in the last couple of weeks and no 3's.

I suspect that I can get into the high 3`s using my current strategy but beyond that I will likely need to become a bit more flexible with my recognition. I still tend to be a bit too structured. A more holistic approach seems to be the most likely way of doing extreme in the 2's.

An obscene level that requires a few of the more esoteric strategies would be nice to have at this stage. Only seems to be available in some of PC based software.

I know I'll take some heat for this comment, but I'll say it anyways.... For extreme, anything under 2 minutes is most likely a cheat, anything near 1 minute is clearly cheating. I did a quick test, took a screenshot of an extreme, solved it offline, went back to resume the puzzle and all I did was type in the numbers (copy from the offline). That took about 1 minute. That was no thinking, no looking around. I uploaded the score and I wasn't even in the top 20. There are 81 squares, maybe 10 or 15 filled in for extreme, so 66 numbers at average 1 second each is over 1 minute.

You might be able to do an easy in 1 minute without cheating, mainly because there are less blanks to fill in.

My top 5 this month are in the 3's in extreme with all hints turned off. Most of these are of course easy solves. That said I think there is plenty of opportunities for me to break into the 2's without changing strategy and simply going faster.
Getting into low 2's is likely going to take my learning to recognize some of my less well understood strategies better (quicker recognition or more cases).

I would like to see an extreme++ kind of level that presses me to spend more time thinking through the puzzle. Extreme only occasionally generates a really tough puzzle. Most of them are consistently solvable for me in the 5's.

If your recognition of the puzzle is good you shouldn't be limited by much more than how fast you can enter the result. I can't really comment about sub 2 but I can see an awful lot of room for improvement in my current results with simple brute force practice to improve consistency and recognition. In orde to get better at more complex 2 and 3 step solves I suspect I would need to spend more real think time on it rather than just simple pattern recognition and I'm still pretty lazy about taking the easy improvements.

8:33 minutes on holy ghost no hints can u claim same lieing to down grade others self confidence every is a wierdi sickness u know...

UPDATE

my new record for extreme puzzle is

2:05

and again with NO helper (disable all help), validate, auto-fills, flag conflicting value, flag incorrect value, cheating, guessing, pausing etc

next goal is hitting 1 min