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What are people considering "cheating"? Taking a picture of the board, pausing it, and then entering the numbers by hand? Solving it via a bot? Or using the 'helper' functions like checking if the board is valid? The first two are obviously cheating, but one could make an argument the third is no.
I'm somewhat skeptical of extreme scores at a minute or less, though I suppose there are some people out there who have way too much time on their hands and don't mind permanently disfiguring their hands by typing that fast on a tiny phone. I did solve a minesweeper game in under 4 seconds once (ok, it was kinda luck). Usually though I'm just playing this while watching TV, and then only submitting my score if I did well. I would guess a lot of others are in the same position, which would explain why the percentiles are off. People are more likely to submit their 8 minute extreme win than their 30 minute extreme win.

Not sure I could do a sub 1minute solution, but then I think they're possible...for easy that is.

My top 10 times are between 1.27 and 1.34 and they don't feel particularly fast, so to go two-thirds of that shouldn't be too difficult...

got 1:50 on easy 97-98%(cant remember)
2:48 on medium. 98%
6:something on hard 85%+ (not sure)
14: something on extreme. 30%+( not sure)
I play on easy about 60% of the time. Hard 30%. Medium 7% and extreme about 3%. Not quite sure though. If I'm in the zone I can usually get 5-6 consecutive times under 2:10.The only thing I can improve on easy is my screen since I'm entering them in almost as I see it but I can't click precisely.On medium my best time is about a minute above the rest of my times and on hard its like 1:30. My usual times on extreme are about an hour. I normally get too frustrated with them to finish.

My best time on easy is 1:50, and my best time on medium is 2:06. I suspect that my limitation is my fat fingers on the touchscreen. I would not be surprised if there were legitimate times for easy in the sub-1:00 space, but I doubt I'll ever be able to get there.

My best times have been going down. 1:45-1:55 is all my top 10. Every week it changes. Just a month ago I thought 4:00 was blazing but I get that when I'm groggy in the morning. I noticed I'm faster when I'm listening to music although I haven't done so in a while which probably explains why I haven't been beating my best times. on medium its like 2:30 but I rarely play.

Are you telling me that the person with the best time of 00:00.0 is a valid time? There is no way in hell (or heaven) that those times under 2 or 3 minutes are valid. a cheater would never admit that they cheated so I will believe it wen I see it!

jcosapphire wrote:I don't know why you guys blame people for cheating. Until today, when I read these posts for the first time, I didn't know that it was possible to cheat in this game. I've been playing here for a few months and my best time on easy is 1:20. That's a very real score. I consistently score in the 1:50's and all of my ten best are under 1:33. I am by no means the greatest sudoku player of all time, so I do believe that *MOST* of the times are true... you guys should stop being upset that you aren't making the leader boards and use them as motivation to get better... it makes this game much more enjoyable if you do.

I am sorry, but it is not possible to complete a puzzle in 1 second, bot to mention there are several that were completed in the 30 second range. Even if you memorize all of the possible puzzle combinations, the average number of blank squares is 58 on easy, that would be an average of 116 key presses, with no fat finger mistakes, and there were several scores in the 30 second range. That would be an average of 4 key presses a second. Come on now.

Smplguy wrote:Are you telling me that the person with the best time of 00:00.0 is a valid time? There is no way in hell (or heaven) that those times under 2 or 3 minutes are valid. a cheater would never admit that they cheated so I will believe it wen I see it!

I agree that that there is a bunch of cheating going on, but I am not sure which difficulty you are referring to, may average on easy is 1:45 and I do not cheat. Why even bother downloading the game, much less playing, if you are going to cheat.

I got 1:52 on the competition this week. Every time that is ahead of mine i'm thinking is legit. Sometimes its easy to get in the zone when you're doing a competition. My top time ever on easy is only 1:32.

Maybe there are a few super-beings who can genuinely get under a minute, but anything significantly less than that has to be suspect - simply because of the time it takes to enter the numbers. The current leaderboard has 3 seconds as the quickest time for easy, which is clearly utter bull. I would be embarrassed to have such an obvious lie posted to my name (thedapperlass - does that really make you feel good?). I got under 3 minutes once, and I was happy all day!

Well I saw today that an easy score was 3 seconds, that one is obvious. But my best time 1:13, and I normally get sub 2 minutes especially after this new update makes it even faster to put the numbers in.

I've played for HOURS and my best score is 1:53. I've spent about 30 hours trying to beat it but have not succeeded as of yet.

Ok not to discredit anyone but 3seconds? come on how is that possible. i cant even think of how you can cheat that fast, let alone see the puzzle for the first time and solve it in 3 seconds.

He hit the nail on the head...
"I am sorry, but it is not possible to complete a puzzle in 1 second, not to mention there are several that were completed in the 30 second range. Even if you memorize all of the possible puzzle combinations, the average number of blank squares is 58 on easy, that would be an average of 116 key presses"
How fast can you make 116 presses when you read them from a piece of paper? and how fast can you make 116 presses while solving the puzzle? The two minute mark is roughly one per second...

I'm slow because I haven't played in a while: Easy 6:36.

Here's cheating: If you root your Andriod device, you can manipulate numbers using a program similar to CheatEngine. CheatEngine is used in Windows to edit numeric values in Adobe Flash games. CheatEngine has several techniques to find values by several techniques, then change them.

It also has the ability to slow down the system clock.

I think the only way to really measure speeds are to force a system date/time update from the server at the start and when solved. Include that info and display an asterisk (*) if the time is questionable, and exclude those times when reporting better than %.

-=- PalaDolphin